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CSD BREMEN REMAINS STUBBORN ABOUT FETISH AT ‘THEIR’ PARADE

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The basics for our International readers: CSD stands for Christopher Street Day which is basically the German version of Pride held in all big cities. CSD Bremen is a relatively new association founded in 2016 staffed as all groups of this type are by community volunteers.

CSD Bremen are not new to controversy, in 2019 they refused to let puppies in the parade unless they were walking upright and did not wear pup mask…Oh dear!!! They also too many seem to have judgement issues possibly following people like of the well-known trans despising ‘hate group’ we believe funded & supported by right-wing middle-American church groups the infamous ‘LGBAlliance’ often referred to as the ‘Let’s Get Bigoted Alliance’ whose main goal is to get the ‘T’ removed from LBGTQ+.

CSD BREMEN’S PRESS OFFICER ROBERT MARTIN DADANSKI HAS BEEN APPROACHED SEVERAL TIMES & HAS REFUSED TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS PUT ON BEHALF OF THE FETISH COMMUNITY

What happened?
It is a new talking point across the Worlds Prides online and in the media about not allowing fetish folks representation at Prides and similar events. The usual argument by committees who have long lost site of what Pride originally was and its historic routes and what it should be today are as follows and have resulted in the massive ‘Reclaim Pride’ group. Basically, the desire by some misguided committees is to make them ‘family friendly’ events for kids etc and as many corporate bodies as possible preferring to invite banks and similar institutions into parades to do their one day a year gay virtue signalling and then entirely ignore gay rights and issues for the next 364 days.

In November 2020 CSD Bremen wrote in their “Our Visions and Principles” page on their web site: “No Fetish Representation. We want to educate about the problems of queer people in society. We don’t want to judge whose problems are bigger or smaller. But we do not find the presentation of fetishes in public helpful if we want to talk about topics such as asylum law, trans* law or queer health care at the same demonstration and rally. Especially with fetishes, which are read sexually for viewers, the additional problem arises that the audience cannot consent (lack of consensus in the sense of safe, sane, consensual ). Not to mention that the sexualization of women* in general and minorities in particular is problematic enough.”.

Many in the gay fetish community were upset, led by the very well-known Thorsten Burandt (Mr Fetish Germany 2020, Mr Leather Hessen 2019).
Rather than straight forward apologising for a mistake which CSD Bremen largely claim to be their error on the interpretation of the word fetish as they seem to think that fetish people are entirely representative as sexual beings and do sex acts in public and on Prides like fellatio with dildo’s etc in front of a Disney approved audience…which is news to us but it seems that CSD BREMEN have a better grasp on what fetish is than the fetish community and so they doubled down and made things worse.

They put out a holding statement/press release which is where it’s left today and they won’t and have not answered the gay media’s requests (including ours) for answers since – or put out a proper apology to the gay fetish community. They seem to hope that their mistakes in judgement, public pronouncements against fetish and the chosen direction they took will just go away and boy are they keeping their heads down and hiding behind clasped silent unapologetic lips. Our head feature writer has been a gay journalist for 20 years and he has never come across a ‘Press Office’ and a ‘Press Officer’ that will not speak to the media on request….there is a first for everything and perhaps they are hiding something?


CSD BREMENS statement PM #38: ‘Fetish at CSD Bremen // We are happy about the participation of people in fetish clothes’.18 July 2021  
‘Under the rainbow there is room for everyone’

BREMEN CSD MAY NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT THE COLOURS OF THE GAY RAINBOW FLAG AS FETISH MEN WILL KNOW ONE COLOUR REPRESENTS SEX WHICH THEY SEEM TO WANT TO SCRUB OUT OF THEIR GAY ‘U’ RATED EVENT.

‘We want to celebrate the colorful life. And we want to stand up for civil rights worldwide. And with respect and a sense of responsibility. Obviously, our contribution “Vision and our Principles” from 15.11.2020 was misunderstood, because anyone who knows the CSD Bremen knows that:The CSD Orga team has never banned the wearing of fetish clothing at the CSD Bremen demo since the foundation of the association (2016). Quite the opposite. In June 2017, the Organization Team decided: “Fetish clothing yes. – Sex, sexual acts, etc. No! – We demonstrate together, but performing sexual acts in public is not one of them!Participants in fetish clothing have been taking part as a matter of course since our first CSD (2017).That’s the way it is, it stays that way, and we are happy about the participation of people in fetish clothes.We think that the depiction of sex, sexual acts, such as symbolic penetration, insertion of dildos deep into the throat, etc. is not helpful in representing our demands to third parties, such as politics.

A part of these depictions are also fetish plots. Here, for example, it is about actions that reduce strongly to the sexual act. Even actions where the audience cannot recognize that they are based on absolute voluntariness and the possibility of termination at any time by all participants can be problematic. If, for example, this perception leads to a conflict of objectives with the demand for sexual self-determination, demands lose their strength in the eyes of viewers. We are often confronted with the “what else do you want” argument, because people do not recognize the still existing problems.

Our volunteer team has published the policy article (autumn 2020) and has only combined all the principles adopted over the years into one document. The fact that the word fetish has several meanings was simply overlooked. What the CSD Bremen team hasn’t overlooked, however, is the fact that mistakes can happen where people work. We have invited all readers to give feedback in the introduction to the policy article. We would like to thank you very much for the partly constructive criticisms. And will unambiguously reformulate the paragraph in the near future.

THEY THANK THE GAY COMMUNITY & IT’S FETISH BROTHERS FOR ‘THEIR PARTLY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISMS’ BUT OF COURSE A FULL APOLOGY WAS FAR FROM FORTHCOMING

This got a reaction from many people for it’s doubling down and for appearing to blame fetish people again, this time for plotting past or present to perform sex acts at a Pride/CSD event. Many businesses, clubs and associations condemned CSD Bremen, including Gear Club Portugal, Eagle Stuttgart, Eagle Amsterdam, Leather Fetish Community Germany, Spanish Leather Fetish Community etc. The CSD Bremen Pride Festival is set for 27 & 28 August 2021


HERE IS THE QUESTIONS PUT BY ALPHATRIBE MAGAZINE THAT CSD BREMEN HAVE REFUSED REPEATEDLY TO ANSWER

1 Given the original text of your Vision Statement says “No Fetish Representations” and Fetish People (leather and rubber folk in particular) are dressed in their fetish – they are a living embodiment of their fetish – how do you think this statement does not appear to exclude fetish people from CSD Bremen’s Pride parade?

2 How many people approved this text being included in your Vision Statement before it was published last November, and did no one see that this text might have been problematic or cause offence?

3 Why do you think that the crowd lining the route of a Pride Parade would have to consent to see fetish people and this consent would not be freely given? Did the original Stonewall parades and first prides require consent from the onlookers as to who was protesting or walking?

4 In your press release of 18/07/21 you say that “anyone who knows CSD Bremen” would know that fetish people were welcome. But this page “Our Vision and Principles” is aimed at people who don’t know CSD Bremen, it is part of the “About Us” section of your web site. Can you see that putting “No Fetish” at the heart of who you are, in your Vision Statement, might be seen as divisive, and particularly so when it comes after a section on “No Discrimination”?

5 Your press release does not apologise in any way for the wording of this section in your Vision Statement. Indeed it seems to compound the problem. Instead of “fetish representations” it talks about “sex, [and] sexual acts such as symbolic penetration”. And then says “A part of these depictions [of sexual acts] are also fetish plots.” This seems to imply that fetish people are to blame for plotting to commit acts of indecency at a Pride Parade. Why do you think that, let alone write it in a Press Release attempting to defuse this situation?

6 The word Fetish, at least in English, has only one meaning of which applies in these circumstances – an object that causes a habitual erotic response. You seem to claim to have mistaken the word fetish for the phrase “sex act”. (Your revised text is just about the same text as before with “fetish” replaced with “sex act”.) How do a committee of people supposedly active in the gay community make that mistake? When writing the old or the new wording of this paragraph, did you reach out for comment to people in the fetish community for comment or help?

7 Given the worldwide negative reaction to your Vision Statement and to the subsequent Press Release, are you planning to reach out to the fetish community to publicly apologise for these divisive and hurtful mistakes?How are you planning to avoid such problems in the future? 


THEIR PLEASE ‘MAKE THIS GO AWAY’ REPLY:

‘Thank you very much your request. Unfortunately, we have to answer you on German, as we have noticed that in your questions the first translation errors have appeared and this topic is simply too sensitive. Currently, the entire organization team (all volunteers) is busy working through the current situation and understanding where which mistakes could have happened. Therefore, team Orga can only refer to press release 38 of 18.07.2021 at this time. https://www.csd-bremen.org/2021/pressemitteilung-38/. There was never a ban on wearing fetish clothes at the CSD Bremen. Allegations, as claimed otherwise, are not true. Every person who has read the principles of the CSD Bremen https://www.csd-bremen.org/2020/unsere-grundsaetze/ must come to the conclusion from the context of the entire text alone that the organization team could not have meant exclusions. Further statements from the team will follow as soon as the team has been able to work through further points.” The PresseBox of the CSD Bremen said.

If we get an answer to our legitimately asked media questions on behalf of the Worldwide fetish community, we will publish them otherwise you may want to contact CSD Bremen yourselves to ensure them that this is not going away and see if you can get a full apology however much you bury your head in the sand. If anyone has any follow up leads, please contact the AT writers Simon Jones or Paul Stag.

This is important as our fight for our gay rights and visibility was hard fought, hard won and still goes on Worldwide today. If the gay fetish community is barred from parades, protests and the like by one event then others will almost certainly follow and then who will be next so as the banks can have a ‘pretend gay friendly day out’ looking good and doing nothing for us thereafter and that families who cannot get to a theme park, McDonalds or bowling alley can have a nice day out eating ice cream looking at the ‘acceptable’ safe gays in CSD Bremen’s eyes and others. The drag queens, Trans people and leathermen at Stonewall in our view together with all the great protestors and campaigners of the 60’s/70’s and 80’s would be appalled at CSD BREMEN’s attempts to split us apart and do the religious right wing’s job for them in our view. CSD BREMEN the ball is in your court and the LBGTQ+ and fetish World is watching ?

CSD BREMEN, GERMANY, ‘NO FETISH REPRESENTION’ at their Pride –  No Apology and won’t answer the media’s questions. By Simon Jones & Paul Stag.

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